They just want them off their lines, so they can concentrate on the able. What about Scientology kids. Most debris that were blocking the streets have already been taken care of, and the biggest damage is from 50-75% of the island without electrical power, and cell phones and internet signals either inactive or very poor. But Lauren hadnt seen Taylor in 10 years. Douglas R. Tweed, 84, passed away Monday, March 20, 2017, at Mayo Clinic Health System in Barron, Wis. Or you just like the anti-Scientology narrative? You end up having to lie and cover over important information and over simplify things to mold disconnection into a weapon that creates a moral panic around scientology. Im sure you know that there are other religions that dont believe in medical treatment, either and that this is actually a matter of freedom of religion. Damian Milton Obituary, What was Damian Milton Cause of Death? I bet the if were the case of your own deceased daughter being shown in national TV while making you guilty, you would then think and speak differently. I went in GREAT details EXACTLY quoting from the that episode all the parts where Leah, Mike, and Lauren BLAMED Cathy Tayler for the death of her daughter without showing one IOTA of proof beyond HEARSAY. Now, I challenge anyone to show me ANY reference where Scientology prohibits seeing a medical doctor; ANY. They are not really interested in reform and correct justice. I do distinctly remember being told I needed another check up and I was not happy about it. Getting licensed is actually a great idea for auditors dealing specifically with the mentally ill as opposed to those auditors dealing with the more stable ones. Tayler Woolston Obituary, Death - The North Tonawanda community said a student who had a very special place in their hearts passed away this past week. As you say, it was the decision to air that segment using only Tony Ortegas information with no attempt to update it with anything new, or even fair, that I believe is the height of cruel emotional manipulation by Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, and the rest of the shows producers. To each their own on their belief system, but many things about this church dont sit well with me. Then that journalist posts that quote from you on the Internet, and a whole bunch of party-bus sociopaths start going off on that quote and ripping you to shreds for saying it. Thats what I call being able to see truth for what it is. We werent supposed to accept those, but the ED (a GREAT individual indeed! vitamins, minerals, chiropractors, etc) to address a medical condition, along with some type of auditing program or PTS handling. But my first impulse and action, is to try to reform and rehabilitate the individual. She never returned to the church. I MYSELF had been doing just that until recently, though I didnt do it that much. Gross Tweed, Telford. ), but its simply not true. I am tired the shit of you guys. Why? Two years ago, we told you about Tayler Tweed, a 27-year-old Scientologist who had been working on a career in music and acting under the name Tayler DeBari before she killed herself at the home of some friends in Fullerton, California on January 10, 2014. I think A&E should interview Cathy Tweed and give her time on their network after what has been done to her. Do you think the church really cares what treatment a Type III receives? That pisses me off the most! Case in point, the DeCrescenzo lawsuit brought forced abortions to the forefront, the reaction from the church no more abortions (so Im told). If I remember right it was a tough decision that went to the Supreme Court and that was with regard to children. For Christs sakes, what is Thursday Funnies and Regraded Being about If not about mocking the church? How can he possibly know what is on their minds? He enjoyed throwing with Marshall High School Track and playing tuba in the band. I dont think that anybody here is denying that. It is the narrative of blame, destroy, and stereotyping others, and the attempt to make believe that some specific instances represent the attitudes of ALL Scientologists, that makes it wrong. You dont know me. I dont know about you, but for me, that sounds more like one of those conspiracy theories that people LOVE to hold on to, to ease their boredom. But first of all, what is meant by mentally ill? It all became a psychological bull shit of plain invalidations and case evaluations. So we all must be at least a little bit paranoid. Let me enlighten you here, a little about how those answers look like. I think you just hate Scientologists and you want to vent your spleen on one here on the Internet and so a mother who lost her daughter to suicide will do just fine for you. Lauren detailed her friendship with fellow second-generation Scientologist Tayler Tweed, whom she met as a teen fresh out of the Sea Org. To plant Memorial Trees in memory of Mrs. Pamela Devone Taylor Edwards, please click here to visit our Sympathy Store . Just like Brock, I think you just hate Scientology and Scientologists, and you want to tear one down, and Cathy Tweed seems like the perfect person for you to victimize. Have you ever seen a suicide survivor have a show done about her that blames her for her daughters suicide to millions of people? We trust that you will find the information listed on this website to be of value to you. This is always a liability for anyone seeking the truth. Tyler Tweed Obituary Tyler Tweed obituary and the death were widely searched online by the people hearing the death information. The suicide rate among young adults and teens has been growing over the past few decades. I mean, she LITERALLY begged them to let her stay, but she couldnt even go inside the building. TAYLOR BASS OBITUARY. Another one of my increasing senior moments Im afraid. This show wasnt about Kathy Tweed! Here is what ACTUALLY LRH said about medical doctors. That point aside, what you say in the following about the church is really the basic and most important issue at stake: If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license.. Cmon open your bloggers eyes. Any leniency from IRS would have to be based on evidence of reformation and good will. Many people who arent involved in Scientology believe in that. What we used to do at my Mission/org was to do what we called an A to J Check based on the policy, Policies on Physical Healing, Insanity and Sources of Trouble. She has no responsibility over the content of the episode she was in. Their motives for doing this may be more of a legal rudiment, rather than a professed belief in medicine. I remember him saying something along the line that a Cult required a leader and some form of organization, and a belief system, and that there just wasnt any coordinated effort with specific leaders to destroy the church. For decades it was even taught in schools that they were quacks which I think was said about anything that wasnt medicine and under the control of the AMA. But in my opinion, most of these abuses are not based on sensible uses of the existing Scn policies, but in misinterpretation of them, or using them in fundamentalistic ways without proper discernment and good judgement. So we present Cathy Tweeds statement and her memorial video. Tyler is a 2016 graduate of Marshall High School. January 23, 1924 - January 3, 2022 U.S. Perhaps Mike Rinders memory got blank because he went pass a misunderstood word, and now he has forgotten about the policies, haha. Finally, the website that is mentioned on the end of the video goes to an obvious anti-Aftermath smear website aimed at discrediting Leah Remini. After a well fought battle with brain cancer, Sarah and Augustus made their journey to heaven on June 11, 2015. She doesnt stand a chance. Most abuses in Scientology happened (with the exception of children who of course, have not enough will power) because people AGREED to being abused. Eventually even insurance companies were covering chiropractic care. I think even they would agree to that because they are not operating on the standard of getting all sides of their stories. At that above link, youll be able to see that the opposition against psychiatry is something WIDELY shared by many groups including medical doctors and different kinds of psychotherapists THEMSELVES and an opposition that HAVE existed independently of Scn and even before it. Publicly accept when any wrongdoing has occurred. Then you have the HCO BULLETIN OF 28 JUNE 1969RA REVISED 26 JULY 1978 RE-REVISED 21 SEPTEMBER 1978, HOW TO CASE SUPERVISE DIANETICS FOLDERS which says : Very sick pcs are sent directly to a medico of course.. Marjorie was the Owner/Operator of Asheville Pool & Patio for over 20 years, dedicating 50 years of service to the company. Dont get me wrong, She is a GREAT artist, and she seems to be a GREAT lady. OBITUARY William L Tweed May 23, 1919- November 25, 2012 IN THE CARE OF Skyline Memorial Gardens and Funeral Home William Leslie Tweed 23 May 1919, Portland Oregon - 25 Nov 2012 Portland Oregon Son of Otto Tweed and Esther Nathalia (Carlson) Tweed In 1962 he became a pattern maker when he went to work at Dependable Pattern Works. (Mick) Peacefully at rest on 30th September 2022 at the Royal Stoke. And totally based on the Tech as well. The whole diatribe about spreading hate is something someone says because they dont like the message. Doh! Second guessing a mother who has lost a daughter to suicide like this is pretty cruel, dont you think? But Im sure that for anyone who has buried their child, the day after is still the same day.. One keeps building on the wisdom because ones data in the world of duality keeps increasing, while at the same time ones ability to connect with the divine (non-duality) also increases. With that being said, let's further investigate the truth and . Part of the questionnaire, included questions to locate what was called Illegal PCs as per the ILLEGAL PCS, ACCEPTANCE OF HIGH CRIME BULLETIN PL. Marvin Ernest Seibold, age 92, of Hendersonville, North Carolina, passed away on Friday, February 10th, 2023, comfortably in his home, with his wife of over 71 years, Helen. Anyway, my comment above had to do with the notion that the church does not treat the mentally ill. This seems to me like an ASC false datum that fits their agenda and theyve convinced others that its true so now its an everybody know, like so many of their assertions. Did you read those letters and watched those videos as well so as to have a more balanced viewpoint on the scenario? Perhaps we ex(es) have forgotten our Auditors Hat to the world, and became insensitive. Obituary Marjorie Tweed Davis, 77, of Black Mountain, passed away Thursday, November 12, 2020. No real mother would ever be truly at peace with a child blowing their head off. I think the painting she made of Tayler is beautiful and I hope she gets a whole bunch of new business from the show. The second half which concerned Tayler Tweed did make me feel uncomfortable because I kept thinking about how devastating this must be to the mother and other relatives. It sounds like you tried to help her and in the best way you knew. No, he DIDNT; read the policies on it. But theres a reason. He should know of quite a few of these stories after all. That Scientology limits its treatment to exercise, PTS handlings and vitamins is very suppressive. Taylors folks disconnected from her and threw her out.. Its just sad that after being the first to demean her own daughter online that she now wants to cry wolf at those who criticize her for being a less than worthy mother to her own child. Mental health should be under the heading of psychotherapy not under the heading of religion., It seems to me that most spiritual teachers I have come across absolutely do include psychotherapy as part of their spiritual teaching, although they might not use that term. Does that sound familiar to anyone was in? You are not the victim in this story, there is only one. Unlikely.. I mean, how hypocritical can one get? It was me the one who usually wrote the Program for such a handling, and very detailed notes of progress were kept. #ScientologyTheAftermath" Just THESE links would be enough to prove my point : https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sideways-view/201505/the-anti-psychiatry-movement. There is no denying that the church is guilty of many abuses even, even if some of those abuses are not exactly illegal. I used to think up to just 1-2 week ago that Rathbun had gone crazy with this fantasy of his and sort of conspiracy theory about an ASC (Anti-Scientology Cult). There isnt really hate involved. And that it then forbids its parishioners from trying out medications is actually, literally, dangerous for Scientologists who suffer from depression. I dont think so. Shouldnt any real and caring mother, second guess herself, if her daughter felt that ending her life was the best option.? Thank you, Jim Dandy!! I enjoy the show. Search here. Today, I would just get those to sign a waiver, if I were to audit them. We love you, Tayler. That, btw, is the key principle I believe Marty is standing up for. There are always at least two sides to every story usually many more. Ive met Mike and like him just fine though he DID try to get in my way back when he was still in and I was starting to wake up. HCO BULLETIN OF 11 JULY 1973RB RE-REVISED 21 SEPTEMBER 1978, ASSIST SUMMARY. Please dont tell me that you have seen one half of a segment of one episode of Leah Reminis show, which repeated an article written by Tony Ortega while adding NOTHING new to it, and you think you have enough knowledge here to say Taylor was never shown any kindness. Guest12, the church (as you called it, which irrelevant to the point under discussion), DID made attempts to prove them wrong by sending the executives of A&E letters of protests, and by specific videos done by the family members (who are still in the church) of those individuals being talked about in the show. Thank you Lauren for sitting down with Leah and Mike. Now you got me confused again, Marildi. This makes me absolutely sad You are saying that you were taking your daughter to doctors when Scientologist dont believe in doctors she should have went to a therapist and got help when she needed it !! It is the very definition of suppression. He was born to Lynda LeGrone Bass and R. Eugene Bass, MD on May 18, 1982 in Atlanta, Georgia. Survey their public for disagreements wish the existing policies, and correct/modify them accordingly. This was not a trap. We assure you that we will regularly update all the information regarding Tyler Tweeds death when the details are made aware. Yet the chiros survived for the simple reason they did help people, often much better than doctors. If Leah and Mike would have emphasized specific instances of Disconnection and Fair Game practices, where only factual data capable of being PROVED was shown preferably with documents, videos, etc that might have acted as enough Media pressure for the church to decide to reform a few things, even if they would do it backstage, you know, without publicly admitting to anything. Ratings. I suspect Mike and Leahs tactics are based on the supposition that public exposure to harmful practices results in reformation. This young woman was crying for help and her mother posted a Facebook message telling people to distance themselves from her. Then, sooner or later, they might actually listen. This link is about the dangerousness of many psychiatric treatments by a psychiatrist himself, Dr. Peter Breggin : Now, many anti-Scientology individuals will say that Dr. Breggin works for Scientology, or is or was a Scientologists, just because his narrative is similar in many ways to the one used by CCHR. That must be the most fallacious argument that Ive ever heard! No more complex than that really. The guy is NUTS, I thought. Ive done a whois search to see who owns the domain and its been made by proxies, which means that whoever runs the website wants to remain private. Why do you think that Cathy Tweed is not human, just like you? This screams Scientology to me. They will KICK YOU OUT!! Come on, how obvious does it have to get? Getting rid of David Miscavige as Chairman of the Board and having to answer to the US government or lose their tax exemption is. She always made time for them while they played on the field . Thanks Marildi; thats a VERY interesting viewpoint indeed! But no cult has the right to break the law. Please, give me a fucking break!!!! Send flowers. However, most Scn watchers do not have the time, resources, or capacity to explore all facets of a Scn-related event. Most Media, are not particularly interested in truth as much as they are interested in what sells and gives ratings. They know who they are,, and will leave it at that. Are they, really? But their manipulation does not extend to this blog. Feel free to add me to your undesired list. Here is what correct PR is not about, from my perspective : About lying about events that did happened. Mental health should be under the heading of psychotherapy not under the heading of religion. This isnt just the belief of Scientologists. Larry Hale. I dont know where this idea that Scnists dont believe in doctors came from (Leah? Mike is not sticking to a narrative like the narrative that most people who wanted the Catholic Church to stop child abuse stuck with that only focus on specific abuses, and on very specific and irrefutable evidence while leaving alone the religious aspects; but they are sticking to a narrative sort of : The church is an evil entity who doesnt believe in medicine, whose members never go see a medical doctor, and who are so brainwashed that they feel no loss when they lose their kids through Disconnection or death, and blah, blah. We considered as Illegal PCs among other things, of course those who had actually ATTEMPTED, not just thought of suicide. My step-Mom asked me last week if it was true that Scientology doesnt allow its members to use medical doctors. I think it is the show that has created this belief that Scientologists dont go to Doctors. Would you like a TV show to make an episode about you and your dead daughter without your consent, and second guess you like this to millions of people? Am I really suppose to believe that all the people who have spoken up just woke up one day and decided to try and fuck this church up for no reason? In this light, it appears The Aftermath has but one goal: To rain upon the church so much bad PR that the public is repulsed. How do you know that for a fact, Alanzo, if you dont mind telling me? Not me, TC. But, lets just face the facts..it was awfully tempting to run with the Tayler story because one of her best Scientology friends was the daughter of Hollywoods own Alex Gibney. Currently, Tayler Woolston's death is widely spreading, and people are concerned to know about Tayler Woolston Obituary and want to get a real update. Its certainly an argument I am open to how so? I dont think you do. Criminal acts are not covered by the first amendment. The sudden death is a heart-wrenching event for all the friends and family. Ive seen and been told of quite a few parents who seemed to love their kids but wouldnt speak with them. Caring for the insane is costly and time-consuming and requires resources. A PAB 6 Handling which basically consisted of A) Daily extroversion using Take a Walk and Look Them Over processes from the Problems of Work book. This is about a PERSONAL AGENDA of desires of destruction and revenge, while cleverly (and DISGUSTINGLY) manipulating human emotion. And if the HE goes, then THEY would start acting sane. Lol. James Cooper Jr. Tony Lakeith McCowin. Whatever this woman says relating to how she tried to help cannot be taken seriously because she followed Hubbard.that makes her statements and response null and void. This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. Of course he knows. This was about her daughter and how she ( Kathy ) and Scientology failed Taylor!. Instead of being referred to a mental health provider, the church attempted to sell another expensive auditing package to her family. None of which appeared in scientology and the aftermath or in Tony Ortega s earlier reporting. Will they reform? Could it be that you ARE one???? Thats okay they are both academy award winning bald guys! `Anyone who knowingly follows a man like Hubbard deserves exactly what they get. I think it was before I was to start onTRs and Objectives. I am truly sorry for the loss of your beautiful daughter. Your baby girl of 27 years killed herself and you're "at peace" with it 72 hours after she leaves this earth forever? You do know that Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed about being at peace with it during a phone call he made to her on the day of Taylers funeral, right? What are you going to say? Born in Burke County, NC on July 26, 1967, he was the son of the late Fred Ray Tweed and Mildred Jane Butler Tweed. {This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. I have never, not once, seen a parent state they were blameless. He was born Jan. 29, 1933, in rural Sand Creek to Ole and Nellie (Fjelstad) Tweed. One sane and balanced comment, at last! No part of Breaking up families is illegal. Following the death information, people wonder what was Tyler Tweed cause of death. Is my post to be interpreted that there arent many, many psychiatrists who try to do the best they can do for their patients, and who concentrate on less invasive, and more alternative ways of effectively treating their patients? Depression can result in death. You know, thats EXACTLY the problem with the AGREED UPON anti-Scientology narrative, Claire, that you take as facts statements that are NOT necessarily facts, and that ACTUALLY, are assumptions not backed up by ANY evidence whatsoever, but which are mostly based on HEARSAY evidence (someone told me that he heard.. kind of thing). Leah and Mike are human beings, Not omniscient enlightened perfect masters with IQs of 6000. Scn, as an activity, is very much self-centered; and VERY focused on the able (e.g. To the contrary, I believe it had everything to do with her suicide and her mother is a robotic, lying piece of shit. "Tayler Tweed's suicide and Aaron Poulin's: Both happened in So. We just said, Sign here please, so you dont suit our asses, and then go ahead and do on them : A VERY high ARC kind of VERY compassionate treatment. https://tonyortega.org/2016/04/28/a-scientologist-heading-for-suicide-the-missing-tayler-tweed-facebook-postings/. Heads are replaceable, haha. Until auditors are licensed, I do not think they should have anything to do with the mentally ill. E) Getting the person to put his/her MEST in order by giving him one simple step to do each day. Again, its a matter of freedom of religion as well as separation of church and state. Towards the end of my involvement with the church, they got positively mean and nasty. And Im mos def not an anti Scientologist. Do you think the church really cares what treatment a Type III receives? Shes shining a light on some very horrific things. A&E's teaser for the upcoming episode shows a picture of my beautiful daughter." And yet Scientology has this utterly dysfunctional policy of forbidding these drugs to treat the brain. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. I would rather err in trusting others than in thinking that they can not change. Well, do all mothers make some mistakes? Tayler deserved so much better! One is geared towards the discovery of truth, the other is entertainment. I am doing this willingly. They were robotically and literally interpreting these EPs and confusing them with the Purpose Section of each Objective process. There's quite the discussion over at Tony's about whether or not Tayler's death can be blamed on Scientology. But, no one who watches a documentary, should walk away and think they know everything about the subject matter. So what. These same quote were used on Leahs show to make Cathy Tweed appear insane, as well: https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/20/tales-from-scientologys-hollywood-celebrity-centre-tayler-tweed-steven-mango/. But did L. Ronald Hubbard intend it that way? But not all mothers have award winning, network sponsored TV shows magnifying their mistakes. Select a region on the map to view notices in your chosen area. Or am I going too fast? Yeah, THANK YOU, Laura. http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Scientology_Suicides#The_dead_cannot_tell_us. Seems so sad that people may be sharing her tragedy for personal gain. Friendly hint- dont say the sorts of things that you might criticize or object to others saying. And Al, Im really glad youre sticking up for Cathy Tweed. Not any longer. Unlikely. As to the tax exemption thing, my own personal opinion on this is that even though that Scientology might very well fall into the category of a religion, its principal activities are not religious in nature, but psychotherapeutic as an institution that SELLS therapeutic services and make a profit from it. But ask MILLIONS of Americans who are into alternative medicine and natural remedies if they will ever consider using any psychotropic drug, and I am sure that the most probable answer from the GREAT majority of them would be, NO, I would not. On the broader perspective of exes and whistleblowers who have sufficient experience within the churches or Orgs to know the policies and tech points that motivate and guide the group effort, as well as the counselling and training points that create the graduated indoc into the subject and benefits across the dynamics,,, i find it very curious that a situation is created that these would have the need to go to external and non scn sources in order to get justice or warn others ,,, Its telling me that the wisdom and purpose of the subject matter contained in books and lectures is being sidelined for the purpose of enforcing attitudes and behaviours in a very careless and stupid manner. They married three years later in 2013 and had two children-Luke Joseph Bass (8) and . This phenomenon is WELL KNOWN on the medical and psychotherapeutic community. Tyler Tweed Death, Obituary - Tyler Tweed of Marshall, Wisconsin, has reportedly died unexpectedly with loved ones, family and the entire community left heartbroken and in grievance, according to online sharing. I also have know Freezoners who took psychiatric meds. And the PTS Type III declare for onlines public. Nothing could be further from the truth; the anti-psychiatry movement has always existed PRIOR to Scn, and has been supported by many medical doctors and psychotherapists THEMSELVES, and by a large portion of the population (though I am not quoting any percentages here, but certainly, there are in the thousands!). It never ceases to amaze me the amount of plain stupidly from the anti-Scientology camp! When most anti-Scientologists refer to The church is doing this or that, and so on, or The church is Fair Gaming this or that one, they fail to recognize that they are ACTUALLY referring to ONE single individual whose orders are being robotically followed. 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